Meet the Trainers & Consultants

Tim Grove, Senior Trainer
(414) 465-5775 tgrove@sainta.org
Tim has 25 years of professional experience in a variety of direct care and administrative positions including In-Home Services, Foster Care, Treatment Foster Care, Residential Treatment, Child Welfare, Community-Based Services, Quality Improvement, and Staff Development. As the senior leader of Trauma Informed Care (TIC) initiatives across all agency programs, he was responsible for implementing SaintA’s TIC philosophy and practices, including Dr. Bruce Perry’s Neurosequential Model of Therapeutics (NMT). He also created a TIC training curriculum centered around the Seven Essential Ingredients (7ei) of understanding and practicing TIC. He is a Mentor with the ChildTrauma Academy and a Master Trainer in Dr. Rob Anda and Laura Porter’s ACE Interface curriculum. Grove and the SaintA team’s work has been highlighted in various media, including a 2018 60 Minutes segment with special correspondent Oprah Winfrey and a three-year research study on the effectiveness of 7ei in child welfare published by the Journal of Child Custody in 2019.


Sara Daniel, MSW, LCS, Senior Trainer
(414) 465-5711 sdaniel@sainta.org
Sara is the Vice President of Educational Services at SaintA and has been helping school districts and early care settings work with students affected by trauma, mental health issues and behavioral challenges for 20 years. She is currently a senior coach and consultant for the Wisconsin Department of Public Instruction Trauma Sensitive School Initiative and the co-author of the Trauma Sensitive Schools Learning Module Series. She has worked with countless school districts nationwide and trained thousands of school staff on the 7ei of Trauma Sensitive Schools. Sara is also certified in the Neurosequential Model of Therapeutics (NMT™) and is the leader of the Adverse Childhood Experience (ACE) Interface Master Trainer Project for the state of Wisconsin.


Kanisha Phelps, MSAL, Senior Trainer
(414) 465-5785 kphelps@sainta.org
Kanisha is the supervisor of staff development for SaintA. A former special education teacher from the Milwaukee Public Schools district, Kanisha serves students with emotional-behavior disorders and social-emotional learning deficiencies. She has created trainings centered on diversity and helped staff develop interpersonal skills. She currently assists with work related to historical trauma and emerging leader development. She oversees the direct training of SaintA’s behavioral management and trauma informed care curriculum. Kanisha has a master’s degree in Administrative and Instructional Leadership from the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee.


Kathleen Ayala, MSW, APSW
(414) 465-1350 kayala@sainta.org
Kathleen incorporates her experience working within treatment foster care and knowledge of NMT™ to educate and assist families and teams on learning about the impact of adverse events and importance of building relationship. Kathleen provides strength-based strategies that support the stability and well-being of the youth, caregivers and team.



Michael Joranger, LCSW
(414) 465-5702 mjoranger@sainta.org
Michael is a staff development coordinator for SaintA. Michael has 33 years of child welfare experience in a variety of settings, including schools, residential care, foster care case management, foster care licensing and placement, foster care parent education, as well as agency-wide staff development. Areas of specialty include bringing the SaintA Trauma Informed Care philosophy to a wider audience and crisis management training for agency staff and foster parents. Attendees at Mike’s classes include Department of Human Service and Child Protection workers, law enforcement, corrections, and psychiatric nurses, educators and social workers. He is also a Master Trainer for the ACE Interface Project and a Mandt system trainer. Mike earned his bachelor’s degree from Saint John’s University, did graduate work at the University of Minnesota, and earned his Master’s degree in Social Work from the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee.


Sarah Morschauser, APSW
(414) 465-5793 smorschauser@sainta.org
Sarah has both personal and professional experience with regards to the child welfare and foster care system that have allowed her to understand the value of healing through relational connections. Sarah looks to working with all team members to obtain critical information to offer a comprehensive assessment that supports the youth, caregivers and team members.



Corey Norlander
Corey Norlander is the Lieutenant of Criminal Investigations at the Sheboygan County Sheriff’s Office. He is currently in his 30th year in law enforcement, having served as a patrol officer, School Resource Officer, and then detective before becoming a supervisor in the detective group. His work in sensitive crimes investigations and multi-disciplinary team development has brought him to an unintended recognition and understanding of trauma on victims and responders. In addition to serving in law enforcement, he serves as Co-Chair on the Attorney General’s Sexual Assault Response Team and trains for the Wisconsin Department of Justice and SaintA.



Julie Scott, MS, LPC-IT, NCC
(414) 465-1379 jscott@sainta.org
Julie’s focus is on how early life experiences impact brain development, shown through a child’s functioning. By providing NMT™ Assessments, Julie creates a road map for therapeutic services and supports to best enhance a child’s current functioning. She works with families, schools and teams to enhance a child’s ability to regulate, relate and reason, and also consults with schools and teams presenting on the Neurosequential Model, helping support children in their home and school environments. Julie is currently completing Phase II Certification in NMT.

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